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Re: Building a C4P Replica
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 12:43 am
by Klyball
Yes these boards will be for cherry mx switches
I believe the 542 keyboards work in reverse of the 600 keyboard were the bit is set when key is pressed
Re: Building a C4P Replica
Posted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:12 pm
by Jeff
I am starting with the keyboard. Follow Here:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=433
/Jeff
Re: Building a C4P Replica
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:27 pm
by Jeff
Hi Guys,
I need some advice. It's time for me to order a bunch of IC's for the boards in my C4P Replica. Many chips are designated non-LS in the Sams documentation. eg 7474 or 7417 or 7400 instead of 74LS74 and 74LS17 and 74LS00. I know LS means "low-power, schottky". What is the difference? Should I substitute LS parts? or order non-LS parts?
Please advise.
/Jeff
Re: Building a C4P Replica
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2019 11:39 pm
by Klyball
I have use ls parts in all boards and have not noticed any problems, you wont find non ls parts as easy.
Re: Building a C4P Replica
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:19 am
by Jeff
MK14HAK wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 9:58 am
Is the Cherry MX key the same footprint as the original OSI key. ie do they fit the original 600 and UK101 board ?
Sadly, no. The MX switches have different solder masks, and alignment holes.
Re: Building a C4P Replica
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 3:39 pm
by dave
Jeff wrote: ↑Sat Mar 30, 2019 6:27 pm
Many chips are designated non-LS in the Sams documentation. eg 7474 or 7417 or 7400 instead of 74LS74 and 74LS17 and 74LS00. I know LS means "low-power, schottky". What is the difference? Should I substitute LS parts? or order non-LS parts?
The LS parts will almost always be a good replacement for the originals. They have similar propagation times, the same voltage thresholds, and lower power requirements, so your machine will run a little less hot.
Dave
Re: Building a C4P Replica
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:04 pm
by Jeff
Thanks Grant and Dave.
/Jeff
Re: Building a C4P Replica
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 1:21 am
by Mark
A bit late, but...
TTL LS works as a replacement for TTL especially if all chips are LS. However TTL can source & sink 2x as much current as LS series, so for things like bus drivers in a loaded C8P, you may be better off with TTL. LS can't drive as many TTL gates when mixing families.
Here is an old
Nuts & Volts article describing the different families, and some more detail can be found in
ON semiconductors description of TTL & TTL LS families. Generally I use whatever I can find in my parts box (mostly 'LS).
-Mark
Re: Building a C4P Replica
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:16 am
by Jeff
Good Info!
Thanks, Mark
/J
Re: Building a C4P Replica
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:40 am
by Jeff
Some of my parts arrived, so I built up the 582 backplane board.
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/Jeff